079 Connecting with Angels, Interview with Madeline Giles
Madeline Giles communicates with the angels now, but that wasn’t always the case. During her dark night of the soul, Madeline’s choices didn’t take her own health and safety into account. One day she woke up and said, “No more.” This led her to the discovery of the angels.
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Gillian Rose: Go ahead.
Madeline Giles: Hi, my name is Madeline Giles, and I'm the founder of Angelic Breath Healing. You are listening to Just Stay Curious.
Gillian Rose: All right, dreamers. It's time to get curious. Today we're talking to Madeline Giles, she's going to share her journey with us today. Madeline envisions a world where communicating with angels is easy for everyone. She founded Angelic Breath Healing as a fast-acting method for people to feel better by consciously connecting with their angels through breath. Madeline teaches classes internationally and offers a 6-month mentorship for people interested in incorporating angelic guidance into their daily life, which is very cool and very fascinating, Madeline. Thank you so much for talking with us today.
Madeline Giles: Thank you so much for having me here. I'm so excited.
Gillian Rose: Of course. We are excited, too. It's very very cool what you do, Angelic Breath Healing, but I am interested if you can take a couple of minutes and tell us about your personal life that led you to this path.
Madeline Giles: 01:45 Yeah, so I basically several, about 7 years ago I learned about angels. I was in college at the time, and just had this one evening, had this basically paranormal experience that ended up changing the course of my life. I saw a shadow of a man on my wall, which sounds really creepy, and it was really creepy when it happened. It inspired me to reach out to learn more about what I needed to do so that I could feel safe. From that exploration, I learned about angels. The way that I relate with angels and the way that I've studied them and experienced them since that experience 7 years ago is really as a non-denominational presence, meaning while there's many religions who acknowledge the presence of angels, angels really emanate qualities of unconditional love and are totally trustworthy and don't have to be associated with religion.
Basically, I started reading all these Doreen Virtue books. Doreen Virtue is a pretty well-known angel author, she has tons of oracle cards out. I would go to seminars to see her speak, and just was totally loving connecting with my angels. It was something that just really resonated with me. I loved that we all have angels, I love learning that every single person has the power to call upon their angels to receive help and the small things, just like since I was in school at the time, it was a lot about please help me study for this test, or when I was having relationship issues or something, really feeling and really exploring how angels served as an unconditional loving, trustworthy, best friend type presence. Although I never questioned their presence, I still all through these studies, I still felt like well, I'm not Doreen Virtue. I wasn't born seeing angels as a child that I can remember, so I kind of still felt this disconnect in really being able to have my own empowered experience, and really thought I still needed to look outside myself to connect with them.
While all of this is kind of self-exploration study was happening, there was still that shred of self-doubt. Also kind of hiding in the closet with it all, too, I mean, I was studying in journalism. Angels was my hobby, it wasn't something I actually thought I would do with my life. Basically with all those sort of, to hone in all those elements to what is now Angelic Breath Healing, I was guided to start doing Kundalini yoga, and breath work, and both practices really strengthened my intuition and really amplified my inner awareness how angels connected uniquely with me, and really felt how doing this practice could serve as a bridge for people who wanted to connect and have their own experience, have an embodied, tangible experience rather than a concept. From my own practice, I received guidance from the angels to create Angelic Breath Healing as a method, a really safe, easy method to have their own experience of connecting with the angels.
Gillian Rose: That is really cool. I did, people should go to your website to read that, because I was reading that story of how you created your practice. It's really cool. This podcast is about diving into personal stories, so I do want to dive into a time in your life when you weren't listening to that inner intuition, and really were not practicing, you know, self-care includes spiritual self-care, and that's where I group in the intuition and praying and angels. A time in your life when you were not practicing that spiritual self-care, and if you can tell us about that and really take us through that experience.
Madeline Giles: 06:52 Yeah, so I will, I'll share that, but I don't really want to take people through this experience because it was not a light time in my life. However, I do feel it was necessary. That was probably the lowest point was when I was in high school, like junior/senior in high school and then going into my early years in college. It was just really challenging. My mom at the time, she's fine now, but she had breast cancer, and there was a lot of alcoholism happening in my family household. Just, I wasn't into spirituality then, although as a child I prayed and stuff. I just felt completely disconnected, I couldn't really handle all that was happening. I didn't know how to handle all that was happening, and so I just went into over-achieving in school and then mixed that with getting blacked out drunk on the weekends, and then going into college just lots of finding ways where I could go into extremes of disconnection, but also making my life look like everything was working by getting good grades. I've always been a really good student on paper.
That was just, it was awful. It was awful in that I felt that void of love, really, the void of love in myself. I couldn't see it from other people. I didn't really know where to turn. I didn't actually realize that there was something that wasn't right, I mean, I knew- I didn't know that I could feel so much better, if that makes sense, because I didn't have the tools. I think people that I've met, I feel like we all have different versions of elements expressed within this story, and I feel like it's necessary on some level, like looking back I feel like it's necessary to be able to have that polarity to really see how different tools and things that come into our lives help us rise stronger through that.
Gillian Rose: Yeah. I definitely agree with you that we all have to go through that, and that is why I have people talk about this part of their lives. It's not to depress everyone, but the fact that some people are going through that right now. Whether it's like, the external heroes journey of something, external circumstances, or the more internal heroin's journey of going through the inner feelings and inner thoughts, and inner stories. It sounds like that's what you were going through is the more internal.
Madeline Giles: 10:04 Yeah, absolutely. That's one way that I've, introverted in that I recharge alone and I actually like spending a lot of time alone in my room, or in nature. It's just a way that I really recharge. During that time, my family called my room the cave because I would just have all the shades down and stay in my room all day. Looking back, I just see how that was a coping mechanism, a way for me to just feel safe in the midst of all what felt like was totally shattering around. Yeah, it was definitely a low point.
It was a dark time, and yet I'm so grateful for it, because I don't know who I'd be without that experience. I feel like I love that you ask this question too, because I think people can look at, I feel like a lot of times11:05 I could get categorized into being all love and light and angels, which of course is an element of the intention of the practice is to find that and access that space inside. That's definitely the intention, however, it's also honoring that life is polarity. Life can be dark. Life does have challenges, and it's not about sticking a call on your angels and you'll be fine over some of the most heart-wrenching and challenging things that come forward. It's really through that experience, through the healing process over the years and just going into those memories to provide healing, one of the ways that I've healed is going into my room when I felt really traumatized by things that were happening in my household, and through this process, seeing how many angels were there in support. It's really helped loosen any charge around those memories as a result.
Gillian Rose: Mm-hmm (affirmative). This, I hear this a lot and I agree with it as well, is that when we look back with hindsight at an experience, we can be grateful for everything that it taught us. If you can think back to where you were in that space, how would you phrase that gratitude? I feel like when you're in it, if somebody were to say oh, you'll be grateful for it later, it might not go over too well.
Madeline Giles: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Gillian Rose: How would you phrase it for somebody who is in that space of trying to disconnect? How would you phrase that to them now?
Madeline Giles: For someone who's in feeling like in a dark space and what- I'm a little unclear of what the question is.
Gillian Rose: If there's somebody, yeah, who's in a dark space and is really trying to disconnect from themselves in whatever way that they do it, how would you give them that hope that it will teach them something?
Madeline Giles: 13:25 You know, what's the first step of changing is really acknowledging and accepting that something's not right. I would never just go up to someone and be like, what you're doing is wrong, and there's a better way. Not necessarily like that's what you're asking, but if there's someone who's like I need help, I want help, and they're in a space of willing to do things differently, then starting there, that is a huge step in healing is being like, okay, no more. I don't want to live this way anymore. If this person, this hypothetical person is not yet in that space of wanting to get better and knowing things can be different, then that's okay. Yet if they are in that space of I want to get better, what's the encouragement I would offer is to really take a breath and tune in and ask, what do I need right now? Really listen to what comes forth. Take it one baby step at a time, because our intuition, our heart, the space inside where angels communicate with us, can be so subtle yet so clear.
I know for me that moment was when I was a sophomore- I've had many of these moments throughout my life- but particularly when I was a sophomore in college, and I was just, it was after a night of not remembering what had happened the night before. I just woke up the next day and I'm like, no more. I'm not doing this anymore. I stopped- I didn't stop drinking totally then, but I stopped drinking hard alcohol and I never, I've never blacked out drunk since that moment. I don't drink anymore, but it was that subtle step where I was just like okay, I listened to that voice and then listened to the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. It's really starting at this what do I need right now, and then committing to that.
Gillian Rose: Mm-hmm (affirmative). At least to me it sounds like even when you were in high school, you were kind of unconsciously doing that by hiding in your room, whether you recognized it or not, seeing that introverted tendency, that need to recharge alone.
Madeline Giles: 15:51 Yeah, absolutely. Also that was in avoidance too, because during that time I did hear stop drinking, don't do this, don't do it. I wasn't ready to hear that. I wasn't ready to listen, because my social life, all those things were built around that. It wasn't like the voice was always there, the guidance was always there, but I needed to be in a space to really be ready to listen to it. I think that's what it comes down to, any of us who are going through a challenging time or feel a bit hopeless, it's like, what part of you is resisting voice of truth, of guidance, of the light?
Gillian Rose: Madeline, now I want to ask you about another time. Perhaps it's directly related or perhaps not, but a time when you had a moment of clarity, a time when you realized the direction that your life was meant to take.
Madeline Giles: 17:05 Oh. There's so many, I've been blessed with really a lot of shooting star clarity moments, but I think one of my favorite ones was- I write about this actually in the story on my website- is when I was driving home, I live in Los Angeles. I was in Ojai for the weekend and I was driving back from a weekend visiting a friend. I had had these subtle ideas of breath work, angels would be a great bridge, but what does it look like? I don't know. It kind of still felt like it was airy fairy in the ethers, wasn't really grounded. As I was driving, I just, it was like I had this flash of inspiration, this moment of clarity, some people call it a download. I saw in my mind's eye and just felt it in my whole being, Angelic Breath Healing. Then it was like, within, I don't even know how much time it was, just a series of seconds, I just got a flash of the structure of the classes, and how each class would focus on primary angelic energy, where the group, all participants would be breathing to have their own experience of connecting with the angel. I saw how people asking their angels and inviting them in through breath really activated the angelic human element that can come through us all.
I felt like this just surge of energy and excitement and clarity, and just inspiration and motivation. Yes, I'm going to do this. It was, I mean, that's really what fueled the whole creation of the business was that feeling, that heart feeling, that download. Even thinking about it now, I have just the same level of excitement about it.
Gillian Rose: Yeah, I do love that story about just driving and boom.
Madeline Giles: I know! Okay, thank you.
Gillian Rose: After you had this moment, did you act on it right away?
Madeline Giles: 19:13 Yes. I did. I did act on it right away because I was starting my second year, got my master's in spiritual psychology at University of Santa Monica. The second year, it's not like a traditional school, it's very experiential learning. The second year we chose a project and received support in creating that project with like monthly tasks and just so much support. I was starting school a couple days after this download came through, definitely not a coincidence. I structured my whole project around creating Angelic Breath Healing. I set monthly goals for myself of first starting with just leading, I had my first circle, I had 2 friends over in my tiny studio apartment on Halloween. It was with Archangel Raziel, who's a very kind of like the Dumbledore or the Merlin Wizard of the angelic realm. I was so nervous, I was so- even though it was my friends, it was like, oh my God I don't want to do this. Even though I was so clear about wanting to do it, I had so much resistance in doing it. I tried to get out of it.
Even after I did it, my friends had really powerful, amazing experiences. I didn't feel good after the first time I led it, but I knew that I had to keep doing it. I just, I started and I just kept taking things step by step by step. That's really led me to where I am today.
Gillian Rose: I really love that you bring that up because I think there's this misconception mostly because we want it to be true that once you have this moment of clarity it's all going to be a piece of cake.
Madeline Giles: Yeah.
Gillian Rose: I like that you said that you still had to work through some resistance after that. Did you have some sort of anchor or what did you use to keep showing up, even through that resistance?
Madeline Giles: 21:25 Really, it was my friends' encouragement, my community, definitely my classmates, that was helpful. It was really, that's what kept me going was it was so helpful to have friends who really supported what I was doing and really encouraged me to keep going. I wasn't even planning on teaching weekly classes, but my friend was like, I want to bring much more people. Start teaching weekly classes. It was kind of just like, um, okay. It's like Frodo, not wanting to leave the shire. Definitely friends' support, encouragement, and also, I mean, the resistance is never-ending. That's just, I mean, the nature of life, at least as I know it at this point. The moment of clarity, of inspiration, it's just like my heart is so in Angelic Breath Healing, it's like, it's almost... I couldn't imagine not doing it, so while I feel immense resistance to basically everything that I create and offer- even though I love doing it I feel so much resistance towards everything. It's that feeling of connected to my heart, and the encouragement from the angels that just... That support has been everything.
Gillian Rose: I just want to ask you one last question about this, and I'm also going to tell you, I'm going to steal your phrase the shooting star moment because I love that.
Madeline Giles: Oh yeah.
Gillian Rose: If we were to make this amazing shooting star moment into a fable of sorts, and that means there's a lesson at the end, what would the lesson be?
Madeline Giles: 23:27 Hmm. Just what comes to mind as you say that is like, when there's a shooting star, we're all like, oh my gosh, there's a shooting star. It was so beautiful, it was so magical. It's like, the moment we've all been waiting for. Why did we see the shooting star? We saw it because it's nighttime, because it's against a black, dark night sky with millions of other stars that we can't even see. We just see a fraction of it. It's like, we love to look at just the shooting star, but not pay attention to why that happened. It's by the contrast of the darkness behind it. I feel in order to really embody the shooting star moment, it's also acknowledging the vast galaxy of space that holds the container for that to happen and to know that the vast galaxy of space is just as magical as the shooting star moments.
Gillian Rose: 25:03 All right, Madeline. It's time for our daily insights, the Q&A part of the show. Sound good?
Madeline Giles: Yeah, sounds great.
Gillian Rose: Why do you think self love is important?
Madeline Giles: Self love is important because it's, I mean, it's the foundation of any dreams, anything that we want to experience in our life comes down to do we love ourselves or no? Are we acting from a place of love, or are we acting from a place of I need to find love outside of myself? If we don't have self love, then it's kind of like, it's like drinking salt water. It's not going to associate, nourish.
Gillian Rose: What was the one thing holding you back from accepting self love?
Madeline Giles: Definitely awareness. I feel like moments where I'm not in self love is when I'm just, I'm not really present and I'm not aware that I'm looking outside myself, or I get trapped in stories because it's so easy to do that, rather than just taking a breath and becoming aware of what's actually happening here. If I'm not aware, if I'm not present to it, then I can't change it.
Gillian Rose: Who is one person who has changed your life for the better?
Madeline Giles: Hmm. Gosh, there are so many people. I mean, on one level of this question, it's like, the man on the street earlier today who smiled at me changed my life for the better. He really made my morning, it's awesome. On another level I would say definitely my teachers, all my teachers that I've been blessed to study with, and there's many of them that without their guidance, I wouldn't be who I am today.
Gillian Rose: What is the best advice you've ever received?
Madeline Giles: Best advice I've ever received is from my friend, Rochelle Schieck, who founded this amazing thing called Qoya, and Rochelle teaches and always says, if it feels good, you're doing it right. That phrase is something I always come back to, if it feels good, I'm doing it right. It's like, the feeling of goodness is really that feeling of relief. It doesn't necessarily mean it's easy, but it's that embodied knowing of okay, I know what the next step is and it's coming from a place of inner truth rather than someone else's construct.
Gillian Rose: What is a self-care habit that you practice regularly?
Madeline Giles: For me, it's angels. I call my angels every day. Every morning when I wake up I acknowledge their presence. The angels can only intervene into our lives if we ask, so I make that a point to do everyday. Sometimes it's just mentally, other times I will have tea, I'll make tea and then I'll call on them and ask them questions and just listen internally. It's kind of like a meditative process. Everyday, it's some incorporation of communicating with my angels.
Gillian Rose: Do you have a favorite quote?
Madeline Giles: Never hesitate to trade your cow for a handful of magic beans. Tom Robbins says that.
Gillian Rose: All right. Can you share with us a resource, an app or some type of tool that we can use in our own self-care practice?
Madeline Giles: Yeah, I love, I'm a huge fan of oracle cards on my phone. I'm a huge oracle fan, so I have so many decks, but on my phone I have a lot of Doreen Virtue decks. It's really nice on the go to just draw a card, and this provides guidance or a connection to angels in a tangible sense.
Gillian Rose: How can people get that on their phone, is it an app or-
Madeline Giles: Oh yes, it's an app. If you just type in, one of my favorite ones is Healing with the Angels by Doreen Virtue, it's a great intro deck. Same with Daily Guidance from your Angels. Yeah, in the app store if you just search Doreen Virtue Oracle Cards, there's a bunch that come up.
Gillian Rose: What book are you reading right now?
Madeline Giles: Right now, I am reading 30 books because I'm not someone who can choose one book. I guess categories of books that I'm reading, I'm studying herbalism right now, so I'm reading a lot of books about that. Plants Spirit Medicine by Eliott Cowan is an amazing book. I'm always reading books about angels. Right now, it's a basic, some basic Doreen Virtue books like Healing with the Angels, and I just started the 40 Rules of Love, my friend recommended it. I don't know who writes it but it's good so far. It's like a Rumi-esque love story.
Gillian Rose: Nice. Madeline, my last question for you, what is the one thing that you are most passionate about?
Madeline Giles: I'm most passionate about listening. Listening to my heart and opening spaces, holding spaces for people to listen to theirs, and for me it's been, angels have been a huge element of helping me to access that space. I'm clear that we all have different methods and modalities and ways that we connect with ourselves that may not even be called spiritual. I think that's awesome because I mean, a world with more diversity is a more dimensionalized world, and that's the kind of world I want to be in. I just feel like if we can create the space to really trust the messages coming from our heart and really honoring what's someone else's message and what their heart is saying may be different than yours, and then finding a way we can come in union together with those awarenesses, I'm excited to live in a world where more of that is happening.
Gillian Rose: Yeah. Madeline, thank you for sharing your insights and your story with us. Can you give us one last parting message, share the best way we can find you and then we will say goodbye.
Madeline Giles: Thank you, thank you so much, Gillian. Loved being on. You can find me on AngelicBreathHealing.com, all my upcoming stuff is on there. My Instagram is @Madeline_Giles, and yeah. That's pretty much what's up for Angelic Breath Healing. Just want to say, we touched a little bit about angels, but if this is your first time being introduced to angels and you're interested in having a more personal relationship with them, feel free to reach out to me with specific kind of inquiries, or just start by asking, trying an experiment and inviting your angels in and asking angels, please help me. Noticing what those inner messages are and taking action on them, and seeing what opens up as a result, because this is truly our divine birthright. It's a fun and I've found to be very healing element to explore in our lives.
Gillian Rose: Madeline, our listeners can find links to everything about you we mentioned in today's episode by going to JustStayCurious.com, clicking the podcast tab and finding you in the archives, or just entering "Madeline Giles" in the search bar. The show notes will pop right up. Madeline, thank you for being so generous with your time and your story. As always, just stay curious.
Madeline Giles: Thank you.
Why do you think self love is important?
Self love is important because it is the foundation of anything else we want to experience. Are we acting from a place of love? Or acting from a place of “I need to find love outside myself.”
What was the number one thing that was holding you back from accepting self love?
Awareness. Moments where I am not in self love, I am not really present.
Who is one person who has changed your life for the better?
My teachers that I have been blessed to study with.
What is the best advice you have ever received?
“If it feels good, you’re doing it right.”
What book are you reading right now?
What is a self care habit that you practice regularly?
I call on my angels every day. I acknowledge their presence. The angels can only intervene in our lives if we ask, so I make a point to do that every day.
Do you have a favorite quote?
“Never hesitate to trade your cow for a handful of magic beans.”
Can you share with us a resource or an app that we can use to help our own self care practice grow?
I am a huge fan of Oracle Cards on my phone. You can get them from the app store. I really like Doreen Virtue.
What is the one thing that you are most passionate about?
Listening. Listening to my heart, opening spaces, and holding spaces for people to listen to their own hearts.
About This Guest:
Madeline Giles envisions a world where communicating with angels is easy for everyone. She founded Angelic Breath Healing as a fast-acting method for people to feel better by consciously connecting with their angels through breath. Madeline teaches classes internationally and offers 6-Month Mentorship for people interested in incorporating angelic guidance into daily life.