065 Your Environment Matters, Interview with Patricia Lohan
Patricia Lohan describes for us her early adventures, owning and running a bar with her father. She describes her epiphany, that led her to change her entire life. Patricia’s inspiring journey will lead you to examine your own choices!
Patricia places a huge emphasis on Feng Shui in her life, knowing that environment matters. Read more about Feng Shui here.
Read the full interview transcript
Patricia: Hi my name is Patricia Lohan and I'm a Feng Shui expert, an intuitive healer, and business strategist and you are to Just Stay Curious.
Gillian: OK dreamers and time to get curious. We are about to hear the story of Patricia Lohan, an amazing woman who is going to be our guest today. Patricia is a serial entrepreneur and self-confessed manifesting queen whose passion is working with women to help them bring the life and business of their dreams into reality through transformational VIP days, online programs, and retreats. Patricia has now merged all of her experience in business, holistic healing, and Feng Shui into a signature success program for female entrepreneurs around the world. Patricia is now living her dream in Bali with her husband Ken.
So Patricia first of all I have to say thank you for coming on the show. And second of all, you'll have to let me and our listeners know what's going on? Because we hear some birds in the background.
Patricia: Oh this is Bali life. That is Crow. Sorry. Cocks and birds. And there's geckos and there is little crickets. That is just the life in Bali. And that's it. It's 7:00 a.m.. They start at 4:00 a.m. So wake me up this morning as I'm just getting settled back in here. Yes that's what the background noise is. So it may sound a little bit different but seriously that is the nature's call of Bali. awesome.
Gillian: So why don't you take one or two minutes. I kind of told everyone about what it is that you are doing nowadays. But why don't you fill in the gaps and let us know how you got to this point.
Patricia: Wow. OK fill in the gaps. So I.
My background was as a... I studied business. I set up a business with my father in my early 20s.
I was 23, 24 I traveled a lot before that around the world and lived in Japan, the Philippines, and India and then decided I'd come back to Ireland and work with my dad. So we set up a bar and restaurant. It was a really massive project. I was 24, I had 30 staff and it was very very hectic and I worked through that place for a seven years and then ended up moving to India. Becoming a yoga teacher and opening up my eyes, my intuition, and my body to full, completely new way of life, lifestyle, and living. And through a massive journey kind of brought me around to into holistic healing therapies and training and working in that for several years. From there I moved into you know I could work a lot with the flow. So it was it was like from there it moved into creating the world a Feng Shui into my life. And then I manifested my husband and once I had met my husband, we both had a passion for Feng Shui. Rewind six to my 16th birthday and I had books about it for my 16th birthday.
I've always been interested in and I'm passionate about it, but I kind of like ignored that interest until it worked when I met my husband.
And I then became a Feng Shui teacher, I was like ok I have got to do this.
So that really has gotten around to where I started really interacting my holistic healing and Feng Shui together. I ignored a huge part of my life of being, just in business and setting up business, and being a female entrepreneur, you know between setting up a business with my father. Before that at 12, I'd been like selling sweets in the schoolyard. You know like I was kind of always doing this got to work so or you know, barter or doing something different.
So by the time I got to here in Bali last year I had a little aha moment. It was like wow I'm going to bring it all together and use it all together. And because who do I love talking to? I love talking to entrepreneurs. I love working with women. I worked with women for several years, working with them, and helping them to attract their soul-mate because that's what many people you know ask me how did you meet Ken, and I'm like well this is what I did. That's kind of how I got here and always sort of had an interest, I love traveling and ended up I had my husband wanting to live in a different country. And we decided we would go to India for our honeymoon for a month and then it was like why should we go for a month, why don't we go for two? It ended up to well two months isn't enough, let's just go.
So that led us on a little journey so we ended up here in Bali a couple months later and we're just back in the summer in Ireland and now we're here for a year.
So it's like we're just like it's pretty that's a pretty shortened down version I think we're gonna be talking about my story and I'll dive a little bit more into things and that's how I'm here.
Gillian: Awesome. Thank you so much for sharing. Yes. So that is the brief overview. Well, as much as we can be on this short episode. But at this point let's go ahead and get into more of your journey. And I mean for all of us somewhere in our own personal journey there is A low point an obstacle, at a time we're not practicing self love or self care. Patricia can you take us to that time in your life and tell us what is going on.
Patricia So I was going through the script, the request and what you're going to ask about self-love.
I went instantly that one and that just came into my mind was I was working in this business. I suppose you know it's a pretty drastic step from running a business. It was seven years in six months. Like it was a huge huge undertaking as a twenty four year old who'd never run a big business like this. And I put my heart, soul, and everything into it. I was you know just young dynamic and I wanted to achieve by four and a half years into it, working 17 hour days pretty much burned out as much as I could. And the other aspect of me is like I really backbend like to work hard and play harder. After a 10 hour a day I would get home throw on some fancy clothes, put on my heels and my make make up on and be out dancing and partying all night. So. On the extreme scale of no sleep, you know seriously drinking a lot. Being out maybe three, four, or five nights a week wasn't that unusual for me. I crashed on the floor of a ballroom in my beautiful couple of hundred dollars dress. I wrecked it. Got a scar across the bottom of my chin from where my handbag kind of attacked me in my fall. And I lost my footing and I don't remember, I don't know how I got home.
I ended up that night getting home, being really sick, and kind of in bed for about a week after that.
I had a severe kidney infection which consequently was told that, you know, from how severe it was, you know, I'd put my kidneys and liver under so much strain from so much alcohol over those few years, from so much intense work, my adrenals were totally shot I was completely a mess.
Now on the outside I did not look like a mess. I was totally together, beautiful, well-dressed. I had on beautiful designer clothes, I had a really nice house and I drove a little BMW. It all looked good and shiny and wonderful, but on the inside I was pretty much falling apart.
And that. That episode and that sickness, I was in bed for just over a week or so, and I kind of woke up and was like something's got to change. Something has to really really change like this is just not right. And so I ended up going from.
So if you could hear about the extremity of that lifestyle that I lead then, and to where I ended up went to a complete extreme.
I stopped drinking alcohol for six months. I stopped going out, I started doing accpt- getting acupuncture most days. I went and got detoxes, loads of cleanses. But what I did was it was in a very controlled manner. So that kind of led me to the whole like opposite end of the spectrum. And I looked amazing. I lost loads of weight, not that I had that much to lose, but I lost a lot of weight.
And I dyed my hair blonde and went very very extreme. So that was like a really interesting time for me for about a year but at the same time is that.
I remember a friend of mine he actually now lives in Bali as well, he walked into the restaurant, my parents place in the west coast of Ireland, he walked in one day and he was like, I said, you're teaching yoga classes. He said, yeah I am. My sister had kept saying to him, yeah, I'm coming to your class, I'm going to your class and they never showed up. So I said to him, I'm going to come to your class, he said, oh yeah, yeah, whatever. You're like your sisters, and I was like oh... It just stayed in my mind that class is at 7 p.m. and I got a got my stuff I ran in the door was must have been five past seven. He said I was late for every single yoga class. When I arrived into the class and sat down on the mat and he said this is an hour for you. And the tears rolled down my eyes. I hadn't given myself a chance to truly have an hour for me.
I actually, that was so alien to me. Self-care isn't something that comes natural to my mother, it still doesn't come natural to her. At the time I would have been really materialistic, self-care was getting my nails you know getting my hair done.
It was a very different level.
So for me moving, sitting for an hour or doing yoga for an hour for me was really a groundbreaking moment in my life. As I continue to do all that crazy detoxing time and extremities, I never missed a class.
I never missed one of those yoga classes. Many left, and I found a yoga teacher. I was so sad, like you're going back to India,and what do you mean, and he's like you and someone else. And literally, two days later I walk into a guy, and I'm talking to him. He's like oh yeah, I teach yoga. I was like OK, when?
So it was like when my next teacher turned up and I thought it was really kind of the background to where I came from was my lowest point.
Gillian: So would you include you that six months following your kidney infection, would you include that in the low point, or you would, was like the kidney infection the real pivotal moment?
Patricia: That was a real pivotal moment because that's when I changed everything.
That's what I really went... I suppose the thing is sometimes you have to go to the opposite, to complete extreme to come into a place of total balance where it's like you don't need to not drink at all, or not go out, or not have fun and you just have to listen to your body. You know, my body really needed that detox anyways so for that time, it was certainly... Yeah. The low point was like I said for me lying on the dance floor with blood.
Gillian: So going to experience. What was the biggest lesson that you learned?
Patricia: The biggest lesson that I learned from that experience. Well, it ultimately changed my whole life for the better.
You know and sometimes you have to get to an extreme point where you actually have to listen. You know when I had to listen you know I had to lie in bed and listen to my body and I knew I had to change. So that was probably...
Yeah that's what came from it. Was that like if you're not listening the universe will tell you.
And you know I had probably been tons and tons and tons of other low points as it moved all the way down to that night on the floor.
And you have to... sometimes the universe just throws you something that you have to actually stop. But if you don't stop it's going to come back again and do it again and again until you do listen.
Gillian: So let's go ahead and transition now and into another time in your life another moment in your life. But this time a moment of clarity that made you really understand what it was that you needed to do to move your life forward.
Patricia: OK. So I suppose that from there, you know, I really got into much healthier living and much more, you know my life really did take a huge turn for the better. And and the yoga moment with David saying you got an hour to you.
Well what happened then was this progressive passion for yoga, an interest in it, and deciding to quit my job. Actually was probably the big jump... The big question, where this moment of clarity was that I sat in front of my dad. We were in the restaurant, and I was like you know, There must be more to life than this just in the here. We were sitting in there. I was like this box, like it's just a big building, you know.
And I had really made it my life, everything kind of like revolved around it, you know. So I'm in this box looking at my father and he says sure what else would you want. Well what else do you need. What else? And inside of me I was like more! I was like, I need more. I want a different life. So from then on, my parents went to Australia on holidays to visit my sister, and I was in charge of everything I was looking after every single part of their business their properties everything.
And I moved into their place which was over the restaurant, and I was ultimately onto... I could see myself there I was like oh my God I could see myself here in like 20 years. Just nothing changing. And that was pretty scary for me. And I was lying on the couch one evening like I need to leave. I need to leave here and that.
I'm going to go to India and become a yoga teacher. So that was I was another moment. I just needed to leave. I needed to get out. So I did that. And then what was so interesting was there was a lot of fear in me obviously about telling my parents this is my decision. My parents came back from Australia.
And it was their first visit to my sister living there and so many of their friends had asked my mom, like were you sad leaving her? Were you sad leaving Nicola in Australia, and my mom was like no she's so happy.
Like how could I be sad? she's so happy. And her see my sister in such a happy space and getting on the plane and coming back to me and just seeing Patricia doesn't have that happiness, that spark.. like it's gone. So I turned to my mom and I said I think I think I'm going... I came home. She came home and she stood up and she said I think you need to leave Patricia. And like. I said well actually I'm moving to India to become a yoga teacher.
So it was like a very a very supportive transition like it was difficult obviously but very supportive.
Gillian: And with that. But the first time you had told anyone about your plans to leave?
Patricia: Literally, the only person I had said it to was David the yoga teacher, because I was like I'm going to gogo to yoga. He said yes, there's a training in the ashram in India on the 24th of November. I'm like OK I'm going to it.
And that was it.
Gillian And now that happened then, is something... like a lesson or a truth that you still live by today?
Patricia: Yeah well, I suppose it's like just being true to myself you know? Really being true to myself and what I want to do, and following my intuition and my heart. Because really telling people I was moving to India to become a yoga teacher was like a serious curveball for people.
They were like what? How have you been practicing yoga for? I was like well, a year and a half or so. Like once a week.
You know and I really I didn't know what that yoga transition was going to do for me. And I was recently talking about it to my group because for me the yoga was like an opening.
It was a physical opening in my body, but also an energetic one and a spiritual one.
And as my body started to open up, all the different types of opportunities started to just unfold and come in.
Gillian: That really nice to have that happen as you follow your heart and then these opportunities unfold.
Patricia: It's just honestly since I made that transition. Alignment. Magic. Miracles. And that's really all that... you know people look at me and see my life now and they're like what are you doing and I'm like well I've done a lot of healing work.
I followed my heart, and I Feng Shui'd my home, and I journal about what I want to see unfold.
And it just does.
Gillian: So for anyone who might now right now might be like metaphorically in the apartment above the restaurant thinking this is my life for the foreseeable future and I want something different. What advice do you have for them?
Patricia: Don't panic don't panic.
And I would say to them too you know what... That was a fairly radical, my change. Like it was pretty radical. What I would say was just you know, maybe sit down, close your eyes, and just ask your heart what's the next step.
So it doesn't need to be big. Quit your job, getting on a plane, and run away from everything. But it could be... Is there a class I could go to? Is there a local healer that I need to find? Is there a coach that I should be working with? Is there... you know what's my next step? Ask the question. I love using questions. I love asking.
Like how does it get better than this? literally. How does it get better than this? Because you're asking the universe for something to show up. And when you ask the question, the universe delivers. So I would certainly start asking the questions, and journaling around the things you love.
You know really pay attention to the people that come into your life, because when you're asking for help, you know one of my clients, it really struck me so strongly. She was very much in the stuck position several years ago. And it's maybe it's been two and a half years ago. And.
When we first talked about like actually you know the job was really telling her it was not in a positive place.
But I was just caught, she turned to me and she's like, you know I've been asking how can it get any worse? Instantly if we change that and start asking how can it get any better... it did. You know, she met a really nice guy. They've just been traveling across the states all summer. She eventually quit the job. She didn't do it for a whole year because it was a really scary step, but she started getting into mindfulness, and meditation, and EFT, and doing all these different things. It's been like watching this journey of this like flower bud unfold so beautifully.
And so yeah, don't panic. Ask questions, and take action in some way. So it does not need to be quitting your job and hopping on a plane to India. Just journaling about like how your dream day looks. Journal like, this is what I love to be doing every single morning. And you know I've been journaling about my dream day for several years. Essentially since I kind of really got on this path. And about three or four months ago I got up here in Bali. I went to my yoga practice. I had some time with Ken in the morning, came home dropped off, and picked up a coconut, and got to my house, had a swim in our pool, and drank my coconut, the girl and delivered the fresh juices to me, and I sat back and I was like, oh my God, this is it.
This is my dream day. And that afternoon I worked with some clients and you know, I'm in this beautiful, warm country. And that was my dream day. It doesn't happen overnight. You have to keep taking steps towards it, and doing one little thing of it, for years the only thing part of my dream day that looked like my dream day was I wake up in the morning and I take my lemony water. The second thing then, was I'd wake up in the morning take my lemony water and I wake up beside my amazing husband. So it has to take time to manifest. But the clearer you are with what it is, and what your dream day looks like the easier it is going to be to manifest it.
Gillian: All right Patricia. It's time for our daily insights, the Q&A part of the show.
Why do you think that self love is important.
Patricia: Because if you do not fill up your own cup, how on earth... So if your cup is like your own energy, if you do not fill up your own cup how on earth can you help other people? Or fill anybody else's cup up if you are empty.
I was in Goa in India with a friend of mine, and we were... he brought me to visit an old Yogi. This Yogi was maybe he was in his late 80s, and then my friend said to him, This is Patricia, she does yoga. She's a yoga teacher, and he said, Ah yes, yoga asana, very good. It helps you have a fit body so that you can help other people. And I went ahhhh.
That's it. You know, but you have to be able to help yourself first. You know, so if I wasn't practicing yoga and I wasn't eating healthily, or I wasn't looking after people how can I help people on their own transformative journey?
Gillian: What is the best advice that you've ever received.
Patricia: Best advice I've ever received...
I've received so much advice.
For me, I can't even think of a piece of advice.
But I do know that I see my parents as an amazing role models for me. Especially with entrepreneurial stuff. And it was really to just go for it. You know if you feel it, like my dad's vision for his business, and for all of his businesses over the years... he just followed his gut. That has, it... it really reduced my fear of taking risks being around my parents because they did loads of that.
So yeah, don't be afraid. Just do it. If it feels right.
Gillian: Can you share a self-care habit that you practice regularly?
Patricia: Self-care habits that I practice regularly. I love my lemony water every morning.
If I don't start it with that, it feels a little bit astray and it might feel like a strange thing but I just feel like it wakes me up and gets me there.
And yoga is a huge part of my life. If I don't do it though I don't feel like beating myself up about it, you know. So it's like self-care needs to nurture your soul. But if you don't do it, don't feel guilty about not doing it. Today I'm going for a massage. And these are several self-care habits.
I have regular sessions with different types of healers... kinesiology to Reiki, whatever.
You know, I of just tune in and go what do I need right now? If I'm feeling a little bit out of alignment, I just tuned in, and the person's name will come in and tell me OK this is what you need to do. So I listen and I follow through that, but I do have, you know my friends say to me, you spend a fortune on all of this stuff and I'm like yeah, but look how happy I am.
Gillian: Do you have a favorite quote?
Patricia: Do I have a favorite quote. "Be the change you want to see in the world."
Gillian: Can you share with us a resource or an app that we can use in our own self-care practice?
Patricia: An app. I don't actually use apps... although something that I actually do use for an app which I have found incredibly useful... when I've been working with my naturopath the last couple of years, she told me to track your period, and that has been something that I never did. So I use this app called Eve and I track my period, and it gives me a heads up on days off which is another self practice thing that is kind of become built in. It's like the day of my period, like by day one day 2, if I can I really don't schedule any work. I just takes some time out because my body needs rest. And I yes, so that is something that I find has made a huge shift. It's just that actually tracking it, and being able to recognize, oh, OK that's what's going on with me right now. It's not just like a crazy woman but also being able to give myself the time off.
That's the benefits of being an entrepreneur is that I can look at my schedule and go OK. It's supposed to come those two days, so I'll just you know take some time out.
Gillian: What book are you reading right now.
Patricia: I have a few books on the go, because I was on the plane coming over. So the first book that I have at moment on the is The Universe Has Got Your Back by Gabrielle Bernstein. I also have Stop Acting So Rich. And I have Moonologie. Those are three books that I have currently.
Gillian: Awesome. And my last question for you Patricia. What is the one thing that you are most passionate about.
Patricia: I'm most passionate about Feng Shui, to be honest because it's created such a huge huge transition in my life. And what Feng Shui means it's like your environment matters.
So if you're a house like you know you're, you are a mirror of your environment. So if it's a big mess I would, you know, that's what's going on. Your outer world affects your inner world, and environment is really really important. So I mean like where your bedroom, your home, does it spark joy? Do you love it? That is something I'm so passionate about. And you know I've spent the last day and a half house hunting here in Ubud, and I found our house the minute I walked in I was like this feels really good. It looks really good. We're going to get it all Feng Shui'd and balanced, but it's so important to have an environment that supports you because you spend 80 percent of your time in it. So once your house is in order then your energy and your mind and your everything starts to fall into place and starts to support you.
Gillian: Patricia thank you for talking with us today and for sharing your journey.
Can you give us one last parting message. Share the best way we can find you on line or anywhere else and then we'll say goodbye.
Patricia: Cool. So the last bit of advice is just to trust, you know trust that you're being supported even if you feel like you're at the lowest point in your whole life, and just start to take some teeny actions whether it is writing or journaling or whatever that is. Start to make some tiny actions about where you want... the direction you want to move towards and asking the universe to support you in that move. And maybe de-clutter. You know take some actions to actually let go of some stuff that isn't sparking joy for you whether it's clothes or something. And by doing that you're making space for new things to come in and as you're intentionally letting go, intentionally welcome in your dream life. You know it's very powerful by letting go of things that don't serve you anymore or spark joy.
And how can you get in touch with me? First of all, you can check me out at PatriciaLohan.com. I have a seven day little video training series in how to unleash your manifesting mojo, so if you are feeling that stuckness there's like seven days of training like how to get unstuck basically and attract things that you want into your life. Alternatively you're very welcome to join my Facebook group which is called The Dream Life and Biz Creators group. It's an amazing group of incredible women. We do regular challenges and have loads of fun.
So yeah I can see you there. So I'm Patricia Lohan on Facebook, PatriciaLohan.com, that's me.
Gillian: Our listeners can find links to everything about you we mentioned in today's episode by going to JustStayCurious.com, clicking the podcast tab and finding you in the archives. Or just enter in Patricia Lohan and the search bar and the show notes will pop right up. Patricia thank you for being so generous with your time and your story as always. Just stay curious.
Patricia: Thank you.
Why do you think that self love is important?
If you do not fill up your own cup, how on earth can you help other people.
If I wasn't practicing yoga and I wasn't eating healthily, or I wasn't looking after people how can I help people on their own transformative journey?
What is the best advice you have ever received?
“Just go for it. Follow your gut.”
What is a self care habit that you practice regularly?
I love my lemony water every morning.
If I don't start it with that, it feels a little bit astray and it might feel like a strange thing but I just feel like it wakes me up and gets me there.
And yoga is a huge part of my life. If I don't do it though I don't feel like beating myself up about it, you know. So it's like self-care needs to nurture your soul.
Can you share with us a resource or an app that we can use to help our own self care practice grow?
I track my period, using this app called Eve. Then I make sure not to schedule any clients on the days I get my period, if I can at all avoid it.
What book are you reading right now?
What is the one thing that you are most passionate about?
“I am most passionate about Feng Shui because it has created such a huge transition difference in my life. In Feng Shui, your environment matters. You are a mirror of your environment. Your outer world reflects your inner world.”
About This Guest:
Patricia is a serial entrepreneur and self-confessed manifesting queen, whose passion is working with women to help them bring the life and business of their dreams into reality. Patricia uses Feng Shui, Reiki, Body Mind Balancing, along with a Bachelor In Business. Patricia is now living her dream in Bali with her husband Ken.
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